Thanks for your responses. They are most certainly in denial about it all.
They do, however, quote Fred Franz a lot I guess it's because of what Design said in that he downplayed his own prediction because he began to realise it might not happen.
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i saw a very long thread on answerbag answering the above question in which there are several jws responding and denyng vehemently what is said in the question.
in some places being quite rude to people.
the dialogue highlighted yellow is me, the text highlighted blue is someone who is agreeing that the jws did preach this.
Thanks for your responses. They are most certainly in denial about it all.
They do, however, quote Fred Franz a lot I guess it's because of what Design said in that he downplayed his own prediction because he began to realise it might not happen.
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iv'e been posting here a long time but here's something i never shared before .
i'm still a window cleaner.
i'm not going to rant at the 'society' because they don't own my anger anymore but my work is certainly a legacy of my cult past.
What a wonderful story, I love a happy ending!
Seriously, though stories like this must give other people so much hope for their own lives, families, future etc. When they feel so trapped and they read this it will give them strength to know that it is possible to change one's life around.
I know you will enjoy the graduation and to think your other two children are following too. They are so fortunate to have such a wonderful father.
Have a great day.
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i saw a very long thread on answerbag answering the above question in which there are several jws responding and denyng vehemently what is said in the question.
in some places being quite rude to people.
the dialogue highlighted yellow is me, the text highlighted blue is someone who is agreeing that the jws did preach this.
It is very odd, they say they are in "The Truth" but the truth is exactly what they do not tell. When my husband and I were fading we used to say we were in "The Lies".
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i saw a very long thread on answerbag answering the above question in which there are several jws responding and denyng vehemently what is said in the question.
in some places being quite rude to people.
the dialogue highlighted yellow is me, the text highlighted blue is someone who is agreeing that the jws did preach this.
Thanks Mamalove.
I must admit my in-laws do admit it too. However, if you ever have time you should look at the site Answerbag they all see to completely deny it. What I cut and pasted above is only a snapshot of what they say on the subject. It is truly amazing they just seem to be in complete denial and get quite rude to people who dare to challenge what they say. Hence, why I kept my responses super polite.
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i saw a very long thread on answerbag answering the above question in which there are several jws responding and denyng vehemently what is said in the question.
in some places being quite rude to people.
the dialogue highlighted yellow is me, the text highlighted blue is someone who is agreeing that the jws did preach this.
I sincerely think Grandma Jones that if they did talk to people like yourself and my husband they would just say it was apostate lies. My husband says that all they have to do is say something is apostate and everyone backs down and will believe what they are told to believe rather than what truly happened.
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i saw a very long thread on answerbag answering the above question in which there are several jws responding and denyng vehemently what is said in the question.
in some places being quite rude to people.
the dialogue highlighted yellow is me, the text highlighted blue is someone who is agreeing that the jws did preach this.
I knew nothing about the JWs in 1975 but my husband was born in and he was 16 that year so has a clear memory of it. When I saw the thread on AB with the witnesses completely denying it I was astounded so thought I would pen a polite reply. I cannot believe that they say that it is just "hearsay", how is it so many people lived through it and remember it if that was the case.
Needless to say, neither of them has replied to my question asking if they were witnesses in 1975. I suspect that they weren't and they won't reply to my question.
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Excellent Sabastious
i saw a very long thread on answerbag answering the above question in which there are several jws responding and denyng vehemently what is said in the question.
in some places being quite rude to people.
the dialogue highlighted yellow is me, the text highlighted blue is someone who is agreeing that the jws did preach this.
I saw a very long thread on Answerbag answering the above question in which there are several JWs responding and denyng vehemently what is said in the question. In some places being quite rude to people. The dialogue highlighted yellow is me, the text highlighted blue is someone who is agreeing that the JWs did preach this. In my replies I have tried to be ultra polite and not letting on how much knowledge I have about the faith. What does everyone think?
The two replies highlighted pink and green are two JWs responding.
I work with a very nice Jehovahs Witness. He was brought up in the faith and he remembers 1975 clearly. He said he and his family attended assemblies where the main topic was Armageddon in 1975. They were discouraged from further education but to take up full time door to door work.
I have also spoken to an old lady who has knocked on my door over the years and she says the same too. She also mentioned a book that was printed called "Millions now living will never die." She has promised to bring her copy for me to read as I find reading about religion very interesting.
I hope this helps.
Thank for your input. It seems that many JW's defending their fath have short memories about what was in fact said in the past. Oh well, that's their problem.
Very true Tex. What could they say back then “That it is NOT going to be in 1975”?
Just like today. What Christian could say that “It will not be in 2010 or 2011”?
No one knows. That is the po
Thank you both. I will certainly ask my colleague at work and also the old lady who I regularly discuss the bible with and I will also ask the questions that you have given me as it seems interesting.
A question for both too please, were either of you JWs in 1975?
Thank you for your interest.
i cannot speak for other countries, but it has become evident of late that more and more talks are being done by presiding overseers at kh's (especially in the west midlands) and they are making it quite clear that they are expecting 3 from every publisher (per day) who visit the dudley assembly hall, west midlands to contribute towards the upkeep of it.. the quote from the po's who have done this talk have said that "it is expected that each publisher will put 3 into the box on each day".. what do you think of that then?
as the world hits an economic breakdown the jw's seem to maximising their income from struggling families.. dudley assembly hall holds about 600-700 people.
i'm sure people are capable of doing the maths.. so much for voluntary contributions !!
Thanks for the info Cantleave and Jookbeard.
The last time I was anywhere near Dorking was just over 2 years ago, my son had a little reception in Brockham village hall which is a little village close to Dorking.
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i happen to work with a number of 20 - 30 year olds and i am stunned by the overwhelming social/tech trend that has emerged among them:.
the obsessive - minute to minute use of electronic devices (i. e. 'smartphones, i phones, and the like').
these people are so intensely addicted that they can't stay away for more than a few minutes and keep using them during critical functions at work.
I have noticed that some people cannot be without their phone for more than a minute. So much so that they use it at the table at a dinner party. They are either on FB or Twitter or such like.
IMO all of this is fine but there is a time and a place.